sandy_77
09-12 12:25 PM
I am of the same opinion. We must make presentations to the Foreign Affairs Dept, Justice Department, Presidential Nominees and the Current President and seek from other larger Indo-American, Indo-Chinese Organizations to highlight our suffering. It does not matter whether we are EB2 or EB3 from India or China. What matters is that this is great injustice. How many members of these departments would accept living like us in a country like USA? Are they ok with living in the uncertainty like we do? Will they accept being in the same pay bracket or at the same job level for 5 or more years and that too is not certain? Can they keep their life on hold particularly in the prime of their youth, the way we do? We must remind them how many documents and how many verifications we have to go through to get to the GC (right from F1 or H1 stage). On top of that when the depts life USCIS which are created to facilitate Immigration, turn their backs on us, what does the US Govt expect from us? What does the US Govt expect us to do when DOS second guesses everything that USCIS does and readjudicates and harasses visa applicants through the consulates (with unending and unaccounted for visa stamping delays)?
I have created a spreadsheet with visa bulletin data for the last one year. Anybody with some sense of justice and fairplay can easily look at the data and say that there is no order and no justice for our plight. I created trend charts for EB1, EB2, EB3 and ROW but these did not get uploaded properly. If somebody wishes to try again and recreate these and some how publish them, these charts could be used to communicate our plight in a very simple manner.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pBRG7hWbHtzBT6rfrI8DYFg
I think we should propose to the administration that in view of this unprecedented chaos in the USCIS, DOS, the Congress (on immigration issue) and by implication our lives, they must delink the GC process from being linked to an employer and to the level/skill level/pay scale the LCA is approved for. By linking the process to sponsoring employer they are promoting indentured labor and by forcing us to file new LCAs/ restart GC process for each promotion, they are just being anti-immigrant and anti-progress.
I have created a spreadsheet with visa bulletin data for the last one year. Anybody with some sense of justice and fairplay can easily look at the data and say that there is no order and no justice for our plight. I created trend charts for EB1, EB2, EB3 and ROW but these did not get uploaded properly. If somebody wishes to try again and recreate these and some how publish them, these charts could be used to communicate our plight in a very simple manner.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pBRG7hWbHtzBT6rfrI8DYFg
I think we should propose to the administration that in view of this unprecedented chaos in the USCIS, DOS, the Congress (on immigration issue) and by implication our lives, they must delink the GC process from being linked to an employer and to the level/skill level/pay scale the LCA is approved for. By linking the process to sponsoring employer they are promoting indentured labor and by forcing us to file new LCAs/ restart GC process for each promotion, they are just being anti-immigrant and anti-progress.
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drona
07-05 03:17 PM
Wonderful message blue_line! Thanks for showing your support!
(oh and the correct name of the USCIS head is Emilio Gonzalez)
(oh and the correct name of the USCIS head is Emilio Gonzalez)
greenleaf81
08-13 02:26 AM
Guys I am strained with being my employer and making own food!
Please send all your excess farm Produce to me :D
Please send all your excess farm Produce to me :D
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belmontboy
04-15 07:44 PM
While they a burden to US for 2 years and add nothing to the economy during the same 2, years a H1B contributes to the economy in form of taxes (SS, medicare State and Federal Tax)
Can you refute that ?????
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Your turn ...........
MS fees are 30k.
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little_willy
08-21 05:42 PM
Thanks for sharing the info.
himu73
07-07 04:50 PM
I got it, Just put in google maps
Where is this address on USCIS web site. I cannot find it .Can someone post the link . I want to verify before I send the flowers
Where is this address on USCIS web site. I cannot find it .Can someone post the link . I want to verify before I send the flowers
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ssreenu
04-14 12:59 PM
The aim of this appeal is not to compare or compete with EB1, PhDs, US MS degree holders or discuss other exotic bills!
There are several hundred EB2 / EB3 folks who have continued to live here for several years (many have crossed 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long GC line, for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future.
It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for
8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes due to the government, just because they do not have a GC.
For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained out GCs in 3 / 4 years.
The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 employees who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules "to the T" ????
Is following the rules, going through the approval complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars!
So friends, let us be clear in where we stand and what we are pleading for.
Unless we have the conviction and clarity we cannot make any progess!
Long live the unity of EB 2 / EB3 employees!
May the SUPREME POWER bless IV and the genuine forum members!
I modified your post a little bit and I sent an email to white house, I am not sure how far it will go but I would encourage everyone to send an email to whitehouse, they might look into at least one of the emails if not all:
Contact the White House | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact)
There are several thousand employment based greecard applicants who have continued to live in the USA for several years (many have crossed even 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long greencard line for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future. It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for 8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes to the US government, just because they do not have a Greencard. For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained our greencards in 3 / 4 years. The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 applicants who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules?
Is following immigration rules, going through the complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars! Please consider to clear the long waiting backlogs of the greencard process.
There are several hundred EB2 / EB3 folks who have continued to live here for several years (many have crossed 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long GC line, for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future.
It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for
8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes due to the government, just because they do not have a GC.
For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained out GCs in 3 / 4 years.
The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 employees who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules "to the T" ????
Is following the rules, going through the approval complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars!
So friends, let us be clear in where we stand and what we are pleading for.
Unless we have the conviction and clarity we cannot make any progess!
Long live the unity of EB 2 / EB3 employees!
May the SUPREME POWER bless IV and the genuine forum members!
I modified your post a little bit and I sent an email to white house, I am not sure how far it will go but I would encourage everyone to send an email to whitehouse, they might look into at least one of the emails if not all:
Contact the White House | The White House (http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact)
There are several thousand employment based greecard applicants who have continued to live in the USA for several years (many have crossed even 10 years). They are stuck in the infinitely long greencard line for no fault of theirs. It is natural that people who have stayed for long have grown up children (who are not US born) and who need to go to a good college for a good future. It is almost impossible to pay international fees and it is neither fair no appropriate to break the back of genuine law abiding residents, despite the fact that they have lived for 8 / 10 years and have sincerely paid the taxes to the US government, just because they do not have a Greencard. For the "sin" of being Indian/ Chinese born and for the "sin" of not being able to get the GC because the rules favour long term indentured labour, an entire upcoming yonger generation should not be allowed to suffer. This is unfair and discriminatory. If any one of us had been from a country other than India and China, we would have obtained our greencards in 3 / 4 years. The idea is to have the cases of all genuine, hard working, EB2 / EB3 applicants who have honestly lived here and are continuing to process the path ot GC legally, be considered from the human angle, more so from the point of view of the education of the children.
When it comes to illegals, people scream about human values, humanitarian considerations, education of their children, family ties etc etc. What about us, who have followed the rules?
Is following immigration rules, going through the complex web of approval processes, paying taxes and trying to lead sedate and simple lives a sin?
Are we not human beings? May be we are labelled "aliens" but we are certainly not from Mars! Please consider to clear the long waiting backlogs of the greencard process.
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qtoask
07-06 03:39 PM
can you please promote this Flower show... because 113 people are waiting you to endorse it...
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thanks for all the efforts...
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thanks for all the efforts...
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sanjay
02-25 01:00 PM
Is IV only for those who have filed I485?
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
Dude, why are you worried about Red dots? Every one has a right to express his / her opinion on a public forum. As you expressed yourself here, others had expressed their consent by giving you red/green.
You have every right to express yourself and forget about dots. It's just a color.
Do you really care?
I gave my opinion and people gave me lot of reds. There is a majority here who already have EAD and have filed I485. You people do not care for those who are less fortunate and struggling in the early stages of the process. If July 07 had not happened, all of you would be asking for I485 filing option today.
By giving reds to people who disagree you will drive people away and make IV only for those who have filed I485 and not for the entire EB immigration people.
Dude, why are you worried about Red dots? Every one has a right to express his / her opinion on a public forum. As you expressed yourself here, others had expressed their consent by giving you red/green.
You have every right to express yourself and forget about dots. It's just a color.
Do you really care?
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antihero
04-15 12:21 AM
What is the need of any sublabor demand ( per direction of this thread?) if they just retain 140 date ? There would no need in first place for any one to use it.
The intent of a subst labor was to save the company time and money for obtaining another labor for the same position in case the original beneficiary drops out. Remember, labor was a company petition, not employee petition. The companies still would have wanted it even if it does not retain its original PD.
The basic thrust behind the idea of changing the rules of PD allocation for subst cases is to push forward PD to july 07 level. Most of the subst happened in that month. we are not asking subst labor folks to quit the queue, just asking them to move behind.
The intent of a subst labor was to save the company time and money for obtaining another labor for the same position in case the original beneficiary drops out. Remember, labor was a company petition, not employee petition. The companies still would have wanted it even if it does not retain its original PD.
The basic thrust behind the idea of changing the rules of PD allocation for subst cases is to push forward PD to july 07 level. Most of the subst happened in that month. we are not asking subst labor folks to quit the queue, just asking them to move behind.
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belmontboy
04-15 10:35 AM
Whether i am a minority and whether i am a majority does not make any difference.
If you want legal speak then ...
Giving GC to STEM graduates is not the right way. If US needs to keep these educated people in US then US needs to make sure these educated people get an H1B without any issues and then they are on the path to GC like everyone else because H1B is a dual intenet visa. Jumping from a F1 visa to a GC visa is not correct as F1 visa is not a immigration intenet visa
If you want plain speak then ...
Why should STEM graduates have it easy when a H1B has to struggle and wait in liner to get a GC.
I would agree to this only is the requirement is made so that only PHD and scientist who have atleats acouple of research papers published be given GC and not every Tom, Dick and harry who completes 4 years engg degree in india from a 2 bit university and whose parents have money and uses this money to pay for 2 years MS.
People who are going to benefit by this will support this. Others oppose.
I believe you belong to latter.
One thing to remember is this provision helps STEM grads irrespective of their EB-class.
legal speak: right now law does exist. F1 to GC would be illegal. This provision is to make the conversion legal
plain speak: look beyond your own situation. Since you are not going to benefit directly, does not mean you stand against it.
Lastly, everybody's parents don't have so much money like you think. People do get 13% student loans in India to fund their studies.
If you want legal speak then ...
Giving GC to STEM graduates is not the right way. If US needs to keep these educated people in US then US needs to make sure these educated people get an H1B without any issues and then they are on the path to GC like everyone else because H1B is a dual intenet visa. Jumping from a F1 visa to a GC visa is not correct as F1 visa is not a immigration intenet visa
If you want plain speak then ...
Why should STEM graduates have it easy when a H1B has to struggle and wait in liner to get a GC.
I would agree to this only is the requirement is made so that only PHD and scientist who have atleats acouple of research papers published be given GC and not every Tom, Dick and harry who completes 4 years engg degree in india from a 2 bit university and whose parents have money and uses this money to pay for 2 years MS.
People who are going to benefit by this will support this. Others oppose.
I believe you belong to latter.
One thing to remember is this provision helps STEM grads irrespective of their EB-class.
legal speak: right now law does exist. F1 to GC would be illegal. This provision is to make the conversion legal
plain speak: look beyond your own situation. Since you are not going to benefit directly, does not mean you stand against it.
Lastly, everybody's parents don't have so much money like you think. People do get 13% student loans in India to fund their studies.
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chanduv23
11-11 03:32 PM
Chandu - Can I Ask you something here.
Just today I was reading on the ac21 thread, how you lamented that we as a community dont stand up for injustice and how some folks are worried that writing AC21 letter may mess up their situation somehow ......
And right now , you are suggesting that the best thing is to get out of any kind of mess. So the person knew he was doing something illegal and his 8 month old kid was beaten up and you feel he paid the price and now No Problem and he should move on ???????????
Somehow, this 2 + 2 isnt equating 4 for me. What am I missing here ?
Sorry Chandu but I'm disappointed with you right now.
You misunderstood my point here. Everyone are doing things at their own risk and must be ready to face any consequences.
Our friend did know she was on tourist visa and illegal to work.
Let me explain what is happening on sulekha
You have some people advertising that they provide nannies for elderly care, child care, they provide food on daily basis and also provide cooks for occasions, services ranging from janitor work, to helping with groceries and all sorts of stuff.
This industry is big - very very big. Some agencies did tell us they have nannies on j1 visa.
We on this forum who are very vocal are the most innocent folks in the world when it comes to this kind of stuff and we have a straight tangential approach of punish someone for beating the kid.
Well - lets use our brains instead. Believe me - our community does not have any sympathy, because we are not united.
People can come on this forum and give advises - but the person who implements it must know what he can expect and that's why he posted here. Our friend is on h1b and maybe having his 485 pending and he must have careful thoughts before he leaps into something.
What is the guarantee that a certified nanny wont ill treat the child. I have heard that nannies need not beat the child but do give mild sedation to babies in their milk so that the nanny can be in peace. If a nanny is doing that do you think she will be caught on tape?
There are tons of things nannies do and you may never be aware of it or may not be caught on video tape.
Just today I was reading on the ac21 thread, how you lamented that we as a community dont stand up for injustice and how some folks are worried that writing AC21 letter may mess up their situation somehow ......
And right now , you are suggesting that the best thing is to get out of any kind of mess. So the person knew he was doing something illegal and his 8 month old kid was beaten up and you feel he paid the price and now No Problem and he should move on ???????????
Somehow, this 2 + 2 isnt equating 4 for me. What am I missing here ?
Sorry Chandu but I'm disappointed with you right now.
You misunderstood my point here. Everyone are doing things at their own risk and must be ready to face any consequences.
Our friend did know she was on tourist visa and illegal to work.
Let me explain what is happening on sulekha
You have some people advertising that they provide nannies for elderly care, child care, they provide food on daily basis and also provide cooks for occasions, services ranging from janitor work, to helping with groceries and all sorts of stuff.
This industry is big - very very big. Some agencies did tell us they have nannies on j1 visa.
We on this forum who are very vocal are the most innocent folks in the world when it comes to this kind of stuff and we have a straight tangential approach of punish someone for beating the kid.
Well - lets use our brains instead. Believe me - our community does not have any sympathy, because we are not united.
People can come on this forum and give advises - but the person who implements it must know what he can expect and that's why he posted here. Our friend is on h1b and maybe having his 485 pending and he must have careful thoughts before he leaps into something.
What is the guarantee that a certified nanny wont ill treat the child. I have heard that nannies need not beat the child but do give mild sedation to babies in their milk so that the nanny can be in peace. If a nanny is doing that do you think she will be caught on tape?
There are tons of things nannies do and you may never be aware of it or may not be caught on video tape.
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texanguy
08-21 04:31 PM
This is a totally wrong message someone out there put out to make people nervous. Application support centers do no have IO's. The only IO's you will meet would be at a different USCIS facility where you take appointment and stand before the counter and ask the questions.
There will be no reason why someone would meet a IO at the fingerprinting place which generally have technicians and security to monitor the process. You sit in a waiting room alongwith 100 other people, then once your name is called, you do the fingerprinting and get out of the door.
There is no time to mingle with IOs nor there will be IOs(friendly or not) who would be willing to disclose any information to you.
Some people online gloat at having pleasure to spread disinformation. this seems to be the case...
Guys take it easy...
There will be no reason why someone would meet a IO at the fingerprinting place which generally have technicians and security to monitor the process. You sit in a waiting room alongwith 100 other people, then once your name is called, you do the fingerprinting and get out of the door.
There is no time to mingle with IOs nor there will be IOs(friendly or not) who would be willing to disclose any information to you.
Some people online gloat at having pleasure to spread disinformation. this seems to be the case...
Guys take it easy...
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sheela
08-21 06:03 PM
This does not mean we will not be seeing any approvals now. USICS might have assigned the visa numbers to lot of pending EB2 I-485 applications. They will be adjudicating those cases in few days. So folks keep the faith , keep bugging USCIS (call them day and night) and check immigrationvoice.org every 2 minutes and also don't forget to check your emails and uscis.gov website for CRIS updates every minute :eek:
God bless us all!!!!
Original Poster should not have sensationalised this memo. If at all this 'news' is true -this may be just something so-called internal matter. Best interpretion of this 'news' is: They may have assigned available visa#s to approvable petitions just as they did before 2nd July07 bulletin, where people kept getting approvals well into Oct07.
So, ALL THE BEST to lucky ones who are 'pre-adjudicated'. How else you can explain Sep VB, which is yet to start from 9/1.
God bless us all!!!!
Original Poster should not have sensationalised this memo. If at all this 'news' is true -this may be just something so-called internal matter. Best interpretion of this 'news' is: They may have assigned available visa#s to approvable petitions just as they did before 2nd July07 bulletin, where people kept getting approvals well into Oct07.
So, ALL THE BEST to lucky ones who are 'pre-adjudicated'. How else you can explain Sep VB, which is yet to start from 9/1.
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Humhongekamyab
08-22 03:54 PM
True...Sean makes up these associations in dreams and in the morning he spits them on FOX news...
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kams
06-17 07:38 PM
My wife has the same problem and problem became apparent when she was in India in March to get H1 Visa stam. 3 years back when she got her first visa stamp, we had used Last name first name format in the application form. However this time the Embassy did not accept it, in the visa issued they stamped FNU (Family name Unknown) in the section marked Given name !!! and mentioned her Firstname, lastname in section marked Surname (Exact opposite to what is in her passport !!!!). When my wife pointed this out to embassy officials, they said it is the SOP in this situation and adviced her to correct the Passport.
As I understand, correcting the name in Passport should'nt take much time. Is'nt it same day service?
As I understand, correcting the name in Passport should'nt take much time. Is'nt it same day service?
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english_august
07-05 11:01 PM
Thousand if not millions of us are affected by DOS's reversal or the visa bulletin, and it would be quite a protest even if 20% of us joined together and raised our voice against this ill-fated system.
Well said. Just think of this flower drive as a way to display our collective might to the media. What really shocks me is that most of us are tech savvy and yet we don't even see too many blog posts on this issue by the community of skilled, legal non-immigrants.
We need to be more vocal, and sending flowers is just another way of expressing our thoughts.
Well said. Just think of this flower drive as a way to display our collective might to the media. What really shocks me is that most of us are tech savvy and yet we don't even see too many blog posts on this issue by the community of skilled, legal non-immigrants.
We need to be more vocal, and sending flowers is just another way of expressing our thoughts.
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a1b2c3
08-21 11:54 PM
Guys chill out...go out for a movie or something.
This is not in anyone's control.
If EB2 visa numbers get exhausted, new visa numbers will be allocated again.
I'm pretty sure within EB3 dates are also going to move forward.
This is not in anyone's control.
If EB2 visa numbers get exhausted, new visa numbers will be allocated again.
I'm pretty sure within EB3 dates are also going to move forward.
Marphad
12-03 03:23 PM
For us, life revolves around everything immigration. For IOs, its just a job to pay the bills. I wouldnt fault the IO...they are just doing their job & acting according to procedure. How many of us professionals keep track of EVERY SINGLE thing thats related to our industry. So keep that in mind while we criticize USCIS people.
If the company I work at, filed an intellectual bankrupcy and had become a big issue that I have to encounter in my day to day life, I would definitely remember that.
If the company I work at, filed an intellectual bankrupcy and had become a big issue that I have to encounter in my day to day life, I would definitely remember that.
fatjoe
08-26 01:08 PM
Yes, they go by the receipt date, which appears on your USCIS online status - they are suppose to go by the date delivered to mail room / receipt date printed on your 797
The Receipt date is the date when they actually receive our case in a Service Center. Notice date is when it got entered into the system. I-485 Notice shows both the RD and ND. RD should be August 17 for most of us, whose cases were transferred to various Service Centers. Online status shows the ND. The only confusion here is what do they go by(may be USCIS it self not sure how to prioritize - whether on ND or RD).
Strictly speaking, if they go by ND and if the ND is after Aug-17 we may not be eligible for GC, as our(July/Aug 07 batch) cut-off dates is august-17-2007. This is what I was told by DAO when I attended the interview at the local USCIS office.
The Receipt date is the date when they actually receive our case in a Service Center. Notice date is when it got entered into the system. I-485 Notice shows both the RD and ND. RD should be August 17 for most of us, whose cases were transferred to various Service Centers. Online status shows the ND. The only confusion here is what do they go by(may be USCIS it self not sure how to prioritize - whether on ND or RD).
Strictly speaking, if they go by ND and if the ND is after Aug-17 we may not be eligible for GC, as our(July/Aug 07 batch) cut-off dates is august-17-2007. This is what I was told by DAO when I attended the interview at the local USCIS office.
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