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  • ash123
    02-12 03:41 PM
    FYI .. This post is what I received in e-mail few days back.

    I would like to bring to the notice of your readers, editorial committee and leaders of
    the Indian community of a systematic way that (legally) the US Government is practicing
    legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and Chinese and other H-1B visa holders.

    While it is agreeable that the current economic downturn is the worst one has seen.
    It is time to band together with what resources we have and make it thru this perfect
    storm. However, the machinations of a few politicians and the further connivance of the
    USCIS, we are about to see a systematic 'legal ethnic cleansing of Indians and other
    foreign professionals'.

    Leaders of the ethnic Indian community should take up this issue. Leading Indian attorneys
    such as Chugh Firm, Khanna Firm, Sheela Murthy, and leaders like Dr. Romesh Japra and
    Yogi Chugh etc should do something about this with their contacts at the highest levels.

    How is this happening and why is it ethnic cleansing?

    Since 1990's every year several thousands of Indian professionals come to the US. Because of
    delay in processing of their Green Cards a vast majority of them are on H-1B.

    With the current downturn, Sen. Grassley et all have raised such a stink that companies are
    forced to lay off H-1b holders first before they lay off any other US employees. While the US
    employers may not always do this. They are being shamed into revealing how they laid off
    US Citizens before laying off others. Net Net....Indian professionals are being laid off from
    large companies (ofcourse, along with layoffs of US citizens and Green card holders as well).

    Now, having been laid off, H-1b holders are forced to leave the country within 10 days if they
    do not find another job. Now, many are forced to leave the US as they cannot sustain living
    in the US. However, some enterprising few are finding lower paying jobs or are finding so called
    'body shopping companies' to file their H-1b transfer in anticipation of staying around till the
    economy improves and they can find suitable jobs. Here is when the systematic targetting and
    ethnic cleansing is coming to the fore. The USCIS in the past which did not, out of the ordinary
    question such H-1b transfers. is raising Request for Evidence (RFE) from these companies.

    These RFEs are raised in such a way that it is impossible to answer them. They are thus
    not only targetting the H-1b candidates, they are systematically undermining the people
    (companies) who want to help out H-1b candidates out of their predicament of being stranded.

    Imagine living in the US for the past 8 years. Owning a home, then getting in line for the
    Green Card. You are close to getting the green card but because of backlog you only get
    what is called the Employment Authorization Card (EAD). So, you continue to be on H-1b status.
    Then your employer fires you....

    There are two paths here.....Technically, with a EAD card you can get employment anywhere
    with what is called US AC21 Portability.However, AC21 EAD portability comes with the need
    that a person with EAD should have another job with the exact same profile and same salary.
    In this market who is going to give you a job with this exact profile as your old job. The only
    way for a person to stay on 'legally' is to file a backup H-1b.

    Thus a person in the 'last stages' of his green card also actually ends up joining a fresh h-1b
    software professional.

    Now, what will the USCIS do? They will ensure that they find some issue with the RFE response
    provided by the 'body shopping company' and issue a denial of H-1b extension.

    The body shopping companies are trying to be the Raoul Wallenbergs (helping with visa when a
    person is in distress - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raoul_Wallenberg). However, the USCIS will
    ensure that literally hundred thousand Indian and Chinese professionals are kicked out of the
    US. The same professionals who came to US to contribute to its success will now be kicked
    out of US against their wish. The companies who are willing to help them will also be harassed
    in the bargain, some of those companies will be investigated for non-payment of wages, some
    of them will be subjected to USCIS audits for trying to help these helpless people whose lives
    are being uprooted.....I am not in any way saying that lives of US citizens is not being uprooted.
    These are very tough times and there is no reason to pick on the helpless, unrepresented people.

    This is as un-american as it gets. US is famous for its chivalry. Over 5000 lives have been sacrificed
    in Iraq to foster democracy and fairness in that part of the world. This is an un-American as it gets.
    This is a planned lynching and killing of the 'spirit' of the foreign worker who came to US dreaming
    of making it the American dream and participating/contributing to its success.

    What should the USCIS do?

    Given the tough times...They should allow people to stay on in the US as long as another
    employer is willing to keep them in status. They should not question the H-1b applications as
    everyone knows that USCIS can find issues with every single H-1b extension filed right now
    with their respective offices. As someone said - Rejecting a H1b now is like issuing speeding
    tickets at INDY 500. Even the largest companies such as Microsoft and IBM can have their
    H-1b applications rejected by the USCIS with the silliest of excuse.

    What is in it for the USCIS not to do this ethnic cleansing?

    Long term vision for America not just right now. This year the US Embassies in India issued over
    98,000 visas to students from India. These are students who are paying their way thru education
    in the US (a country with the most expensive but best education). If it turns out that US specifically
    targets Indians for 'special h-1b rejection treatment' literally half of them will never aspire to come
    to the US within the next 2 or 3 years.

    Right now the economy is bad, but it will improve: It is a 'perfect storm' right now which is causing
    this downturn. The economy will surely improve in the next few quarters. There will then be new
    sectors of the economy that will boom that will need professionals. There will be enough work by then
    for these H-1b professionals as well as US residents.

    Confident and free people contribute positively:
    If the word spreads that even in bad times this society did not turn on them then the US people
    will be appreciated. But, if the message is, when you are down they will kick you where it
    hurts, then this society will not succeed. Just imagine, there are at least 250,000 (maybe more) people of Indian
    and Asian origin who would end up buying a house if they knew for sure that they could continue
    to live without the fear of being 'ethnically cleansed'. Most Indians and Asians save money and do
    not splurge. Just this measure of confidence will ensure that they will spend money in the US
    economy. Just their contributions will ensure that there is a bump in the housing sector.

    Finally, As they say - "Those who do not learn from history are forced to repeat it". The US
    is perpetrating a betrayal of people who could contribute to its success in the long run. But, what they are
    getting is a form of 'systematic and legally driven ethnic cleansing' - they are being identified and
    driven out of the country which they have loyally served for varying periods of time.....

    God Bless America....God Save America from 'some' of its own people.

    Thanks.





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  • justAnotherFile
    07-24 05:57 PM
    .. there should definitely be some policy interpretation at the discretion of the USCIS

    1) The law does not explicitly state that the visa number availability is a pre-requisite for filing the application

    2) If you are interpreting it based on the words ....

    "an immigrant visa is immediately available to him at the time his application is filed"

    Then according to 245(a)(2)....

    "the alien is eligible to receive an immigrant visa and is admissible to the United States for permanent residence, and "

    ....concurrent filing of I-140/I-485 should also be illegal because at the time of filing I-140 there is no determination of whether the alien is eligible to recieve the EB visa. If so how can USCIS allow filing of I-485 at that time.





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  • ganguteli
    03-09 11:32 PM
    I like your idea.
    Let us all blame IV core for not getting our greencard and having a crappy visa bulletin this month. :)
    I contributed $5 in the high five campaign and I still do not have my labor cleared. I want to blame IV for that too. :)

    Did you not see the FOIA action item by IV core?





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  • jcgc
    02-21 02:13 PM
    I can share some estimates for EB2 India through Dec03. I wish had the cases as a database, Then we could query for all dates.

    Column 1: PD
    Column 2: Nbr. Of EB2 India pending from
    Column 3: Estimated Universe of EB2 India Pending ( to Universe ratio of 6.75%)
    Column 4: Cumulative EB2 India pending

    2000-01 0 - -
    2000-03 0 - -
    2000-04 1 15 15
    2000-06 1 15 30
    2000-08 0 - 30
    2000-11 1 15 44
    2000-12 0 - 44
    2001-01 0 - 44
    2001-03 1 15 59
    2001-04 3 44 104
    2001-05 2 30 133
    2001-06 6 89 222
    2001-07 3 44 267
    2001-08 1 15 281
    2001-09 1 15 296
    2001-10 6 89 385
    2001-11 2 30 415
    2001-12 2 30 444
    2002-01 5 74 519
    2002-02 4 59 578
    2002-03 1 15 593
    2002-04 3 44 637
    2002-05 11 163 800
    2002-06 7 104 904
    2002-07 5 74 978
    2002-08 5 74 1,052
    2002-09 5 74 1,126
    2002-10 14 207 1,333
    2002-11 16 237 1,570
    2002-12 11 163 1,733
    2003-01 13 193 1,926
    2003-02 12 178 2,104
    2003-03 20 296 2,400
    2003-04 13 193 2,593
    2003-05 16 237 2,830
    2003-06 17 252 3,081
    2003-07 22 326 3,407
    2003-08 18 267 3,674
    2003-09 18 267 3,941
    2003-10 29 430 4,370
    2003-11 17 252 4,622
    2003-12 18 267 4,889
    Total 330 4,889



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  • Chris Rock
    08-11 03:16 PM
    If there is a non-controversial immi. law change attempt I will donate $500. I will also bring my friends and the total may exceed $2000. We all willing to donate but only if we know that there is good chance of passing.

    If there is an attempt to push ideas like recapture, forget it. It will not pass in this economy. I do not want to waste my money and time on those kind of ideas.

    IMHO. Not to find fault with anyone. Please do not mistake me.





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  • desi3933
    03-17 07:21 AM
    Did you just say "Just because people are not getting green cards does not mean wastage":D

    That is exactly why we need to understand the process.

    Have a look at visa numbers issued to EB category for the last 5 years and decide for yourself if visa numbers were wasted. I hope this helps with your "anxiety".

    Year 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
    EB-All 246,877 159,081 162,176 166,511 141,020
    EB1 64,731 36,960 26,697 36,678 40,978
    EB2 42,597 21,911 44,162 70,046 46,034
    EB3 129,070 89,922 85,030 48,903 39,791
    EB4 10,133 9,539 5,481 9,524 9,999
    EB5 346 749 806 1,360 4,218


    _________________
    Not a legal advice.



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  • BlueSunD
    03-07 12:08 AM
    I guess it is kind of hard to try to complete an image that satisfies the mental picture that we have of it. Mostly, because of time, right now I have a lot to do too. But I won�t quit no matter what.... I guess that, either I love too much to work on 3D, or I like to suffer and don�t sleep :krazy: Anyway, good luck to everyone!

    Geez Grinch! That�s really cool! I hadn�t reloaded this page until I posted... and I didn�t want to double post :)

    Anyway, it�s really neat! Congratulations, the texturing is really nice!





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  • sands_14
    07-18 08:59 AM
    All packets were kept on hold and we should all be ok because they will start sending receipts soon for all complete packages.
    The wait will be long but its good that everyone will enjoy EAD benefits .
    As such,whats the new fees for EAD and AP?



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  • eb3_nepa
    02-13 01:01 PM
    Logicliffe i agree with you.

    I think the Aim of IV should be to make the ENTIRE process of the GC quick and painless and abt 2.5 to 3 years start to finish.

    Guys we have to fight the root cause and not the individual symptoms. United we stand. The problem is Backlogs at various stages. We should strive for removing the root cause of backlogs. A united voice which says, "Give us our Green Cards in abt 3 years". If we fight for each individual thing, we will be like many small streams each figthing for it's own little cause. So far we have seen the following SUB issues:

    1) Spouses not being able to work
    2) Children aging out
    3) FBI/Name check clearance.

    Now if we each start fighting for the specific cause, the movement will be scattered. Instead what we are trying to do is focuss on eliminating ALL problems.

    Guys i ask everyone on here to step forward and Signup for the Rally we are trying to hold In DC. We need stronger numbers on that rally if we are to be successful.





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  • neverbefore
    07-29 02:23 AM
    Hi all,

    I am not sure whether I should add this over here or not but I could not resist and I don't know any other way.

    I went to a wine shop and was shocked to see cartoon of Ganesha used on the bottle of India Pale Beer. I am not a religious person but this thing made me nervous. Please let me know how this can be protested.

    Thanks

    Please desist from such irrelevant postings here. If you have a personal problem, at least display the intelligence to find the proper forum for it.

    To answer your irrelevant question, such a thing can be protested best by not consuming the beer and most of all, to not give it publicity by laying bare your intellect at the wrong fora.



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  • sc09876
    07-29 01:14 PM
    Add CareFirst - Blue Cross Blue Shield
    Legg Meson

    All these companies take people on H1 and after an year of year an half they say they have changed policy and they can't file H1. They have big lawyers like M**** and R**** and those lawyers tell employers even if your employee is on 5th year and if you don't file GC (PERM) b4 365 days its alright.... we can send them out and re catpture time and all BS and ultimately employees suffer.... as they r in their 5th or some are in 6th year and are completely screwed up.
    We should think of taking some legal actions...

    Ya..make sure you consult your attorney to know if such a thing is viable. :). Make sure you read the "employment at will" agreement along with all the other 28 pages that you will abide by the HR policies and also make sure that you read the 125 pages of HR policies.





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  • DesiGuy
    09-10 11:08 AM
    thanks for the updates guys.

    mods/admin, can you pls allow chat access at least for the duration of this hearing...will be appreciated. thnks



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  • jayleno
    07-28 06:24 PM
    Please let me know how to close this thread?

    Wonderful realization. Here is a comment accompanied with red dot for me for my post earlier:

    "why..what is wrong with the thread?"...I wonder what is wrong with this thread.





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  • mihird
    07-09 03:58 PM
    I dont think legally you can sue someone, because they have worked harder.
    I posted this link , so that everybody may know the legal reasons, which we can present in a court of law.

    If this lawsuit is accepted by the court , then the USCIS lawyers would tell what exactly happened.

    I till now personally believe , that the USCIS/DOS hasnt broken any law.
    They may have however changed a pettern,process , but no law has been broken.

    It took them 6 months to consume 66K visas and then another 15 days to process another 66K.

    It is reasonably safe to assume, either correct procedures were not followed in the past or were not followed in the last 2 weeks. Only a judge can order USCIS to elobarte on what processes were followed in the last 2 weeks (FBI name checks and security clearances skipped...etc. etc.)

    They made people expend (or rather waste) millions of dollars in preparing the paperwork...and then changed the process abruptly on July 2nd..with no advance notice...they could have published a guidance in the July bulletin itself of this possibly happening, if not published a guidance sometime later...

    There is no doubt, that the entire chain of events were premeditated...and the communication mix-up as claimed by Condoleezza Rice on TV was a deliberate one..

    I doubt if this will all fly in court...they certainly owe the millions of wasted dollars and thousands of wasted hours in preparing the paperwork, back to the applicants/attornies...at the least...

    Keep in mind, the AILF rarely files a law suit against the government, and most of their law suits have had favorable outcomes..



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  • perm2gc
    01-18 03:33 PM
    Content, content updated. Please verify and let me know.
    Thank You





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  • desi3933
    01-30 02:43 PM
    I agree with the point above, but does this even apply to CrazyGhoda/OP? Because, he already has I485/AOS pending, which is a legal presence in the US in itself. Hence, I don't see him accruing any "out of status/illegal presence" days. He "MIGHT" have to show a future/current employer who is sponsoring his GC, depending on what his RFE asks for.

    Please comment.

    You didn't get it. One could have filed I-485 and still accruing out-of-status days. Hint - Employment history and salary details since last admission.

    Please note that I am not implying that CrazyGhoda is accumulating out-of-status, I don't have all the details for his case.

    ____________________
    Not a legal advice.
    US Citizen of Indian Origin



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  • vin13
    02-12 09:11 AM
    Would you mind asking source/link for "another 13,000 shifted over"?

    As per this link - family based numbers were totally used up for FY2008
    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY08-AR-TableV.pdf
    Family based visa used for FY2008 = 226,105 against 226,000 available.



    I suggest that you follow your own advice and read & understand what is being posted in this thread. What do you think? Is this information or "message" correct?



    ______________________
    Not a legal advice.

    How difficult is it for you to understand. I did not advice. I just said this is the info...
    I was not judging anyone. I do not claim to know all the numbers. So i just put it out there for someone to look and evaluate. Now many are saying based on the numbers, there was no spillover wasted. That is fine.





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  • jonty_11
    12-13 04:06 PM
    ALso, if u worked for a Client get the Client to write u a letter on Client Letter head stating u workind through Consulting COmpany ABC





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  • pappu
    01-16 11:29 AM
    Date of sign up: Jan. 16, 2007
    Subscription Name: Secure $20 Per Month Recurring Contribution
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    Can you confirm?
    pls update your profile so that we can confirm.





    chintu25
    09-10 10:45 AM
    You can view the proceeding live at



    http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html





    mugwump
    01-18 12:29 PM
    2 years ago, I had to go to EWR (newark airport) to give my room mate his passport, he was stopped. eversince then, i always carry my passport even for domestic travel



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